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ELLIOT I HAVE TO BEAT YOU UP AGAIN

that is a question.

ELLIOT WHY IS LLOYD BEATING YOU UP?

That is an actual question.

TIDE ON NEW TEAMMATES!

NO THAT IS NOT A QUESTION

CUZ ELLIOT LIKES FIGHTING EVERYONE AND HE AND LLOYD ARE BROS and also while Lloyd was deaged Elliot lovingly kicked his ass so now Lloyd has to even the score.

WHY ARE YOU A JERK

Goood too many and he hasn't really bonded with anyone yet.

HE LIKES THE DRAGON because she is like... sort of a caricature to him. So he doesn't mind just sort of, sliding into a comfortable role where he bows his head to her clear awesomeness and thus they get along just fine =O But because of that he has no deep feelings either (also they haven't threaded a lot).

NOTHING REALLY ON ZAZZLE'S YET cuz. again very little threading.

He likes robot! Or whatever Sky is. He's a nice shoujo boy who is adorable and eager and exactly the kind of person Tide likes taking care of.

In the sense of PEOPLE KEEP LEAVING. as long as it isn't Break, heeee's pretty fine with it. Whoops feelings 8|;

ALSO YOU NEED TO REPLY TO ME SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR MEMORY

So Acedia EXACTLY WHAT THINGS HAVE YOU FIXED.

I FIXED DERA BEING SAD WHICH IS ALL I CARE ABOUT HA HA HA!!

Well he's gotten a lot more "stable' for him. Which means his emotions are running around muckily muck and he can take a lot more of people telling him they don't like him/ruby/etc. He's gotten a lot more compulsive lying and in general more Mukuro-y and less Acedia. Which is fine for him cos he's like hey Mukuro is a cool dude solve my problems. HE HAS FIXED HOW HE DEALS WITH OZ COS HE THINKS HE KNOWS OZ'S DEAL NOW. HE FIXED HIS PROBLEM WITH CHARITY. HE WAS REASSURED BY KONATSU. SO I GUESS THE ONLY PROBLEM IS REALLY LOL I'M LEANING TOWARDS MY SOCIOPATHIC MAFIA HATING WORLDESTROYING SELF.

HOW IS ELLIOT DOING.

GOD FINE

Souya is really not a bad guy, but he's pretty far from being a Jesusy sort. SO WITH THIS IN MIND, he is very protective of the people he cares about, he is also very, very biased. After a point he ultimately doesn't care who's in the right, if one of his people got hurt then whoever did the hurting sucks.

So, Oz hurt Acedia, THIS WAS ACTUALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE, he didn't even know it had been Oz until Luke told him, but it didn't matter, he'd figured it had been either Oz or Konatsu because they're the newest ones and thus wouldn't have much of an idea of how to deal with Acedia, so he rolled with it, he was working on it with Acedia and things were going to get fixed, but then suddenly Acedia was acting like a completely different person \o/

Learning it had been Luke of all people to go and finish breaking what Oz had started just ide, he was :/ because he thought Luke wouldn't, his reasoning only made him angrier "I WON'T LIE TO HIM EVEN IF THE TRUTH WOULD BREAK HIM AND TURN HIM INTO SOMEONE COMPLETELY UNRECOGNIZABLE" he also thinks Luke is kind of blind because he wouldn't care about Acedia if Acedia wasn't Ruby, the only reason they're close to begin with is because they both woke up at around the same time wearing the same colors.

ALSO, MUCH LIKE WRATH, he doesn't think people ever make an effort to understand Acedia. They just sort of talk at him and try to impose their views on them without ever trying to look at things from his side, so he acts like an asshole when people make Acedia responsible for things, because even though Acedia is sometimes 100% at fault, he is also CRAZY and you can't hold him to the same standards as other people or apply normal people morals to him, because Acedia doesn't understand it like that, so going "HE DID A THING THAT WAS WRONG" is ultimately useless.

TL;DR SOUYA IS AN OVERPROTECTIVE SOCCER MOM. DON'T BULLY MY SON EVEN THOUGH HE KICKED YOU IN THE FACE AND STOLE YOUR CANDY.

EITHER COUNTER-ESSAY or give me Tide's first impressions on his new teammates. (OR DO BOTH)

PS: YOUR POST SAYS LUKE/RUBY IT SHOULD SAY LUKE/DAWN.

Edited 2011-05-31 05:42 (UTC)

Lol.

It has ACTUALLY BEEN A ROUGH FEW DAYS FOR ELLIOT but he is SO ELLIOT he doesn't really notice. Mostly finding out just how god awful Gilbert and Vincent's lives were, that Gilbert is GAY (D8) and doesn't want to carry on the family line (DDDD8) and then getting a memory that on one hand is like YAY I HAVE OTHER FAMILY and on the other is like Huh they were kind of dicks to my other brothers. It's just either complicated or bad feeling stuff but he CAN'T just... black and white on a bunch of these issues because it's like it's CORE ETHICS!!!! vs FAMILY1!!! and family is like the ONLY THING that can get Elliot to hesitate with his core ethics.

THIS IS WHY HE HAS TO TALK TO AERIS.

But. overall, I mean. Nothing srs or immediate. He mostly isn't sure how to approach Gilbert or Vince right now so he just... isn't... 8|;;; Winner...

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT LUKE NOW, ACEDIA.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TINY MONKEYS

I mean

How did Elliot like hangin' out with tiny Citrine?

... yes we should talk.

. . . he thinks Luke is dumb and naive and will probably leave Ruby someday.

On one hand he is pretty well fuck you too, Luke. On the other he feels kind of like bleh that was a bad decision on my part. And on the third hand he is like haha that look on Dawn's face was effin' priceless.

That is the sum of his feelings.

... have your feelings for me changed, Luke...

SEE HOW MUCH I AM FOCUSING ON RUBY THOUGHTS LATELY!!! I EVEN FORGET MY OWN NAME!!!

First impressions on new kids are below.

SO THE PROBLEM WITH LUKE HAVING NO SELF WORTH IS HE CAN'T REALLY DEFEND HIMSELF ANYMORE. Because he doesn't really care if people are treating HIM badly. He certainly doesn't like it, and can see where there is no benefit to him (hence calling Souya a jerk and leaving). But he doesn't get like... very defensive, or righteous. He really just wants to focus on the solution and understanding and making things better aspect.

So Souya BLAMING HIM was very hurtful, but... he knows he is stupid, and he knows he doesn't understand Acedia that well. Not for LACK OF TRYING just... stupid and totally 100% the opposite from him. So when Souya is like YOU DID EVERYTHING WRONG he can't say "No I didn't" all he can say is "I did my best". TO LUKE, someone like Acedia does need to be completely broken, THE WAY HE WAS, so that he can eventually rebuild. He does not... think Souya was right, in that Acedia would eventually become a normal sane person who isn't dangerous to anyone. Because A) there is no way Acedia would've gone on forever without finding out HIS WAY OF SEEING RUBY IS NOT THE ONLY WAY RUBY CAN EXIST and B) because he is pretty sure Acedia would continue to be sane for RUBY and not be sane because, hurting people is bad.

TYL but Luke's END GOAL is to get Acedia to understand things the way PEOPLE SHOULD. Because Luke does realize Acedia was tortured for most of his youth and probably never learned. But he doesn't think that makes it impossible for Acedia! To him 'he is crazy so you have to have different expectations' just doesn't fly. Both because that is completely unfair to everyone around the crazy person and because it is unfair of the crazy person to just assume what kinds of limits they have and treat them like they are handicapped.

anyway blahblah he said what he said knowing it would damage Acedia, and he understands that Souya thinks he is wrong. Luke does NOT think he is wrong because he as deeply personal first hand experience, but he does realize maybe it wasn't the only way, maybe it wasn't the right way, maybe what worked for him won't work for Acedia, and basically there are no guarantees. SO if Souya wants to hate him for that it's just like =\; At first he was trying to explain that they wanted the same thing, even if their routes were different, but after the last thing Souya said Luke realized Souya doesn't care about Luke's feelings (or, probably, the feelings of anyone except Acedia in the matter) and thus there was no point in talking about it anymore.

Though Luke definitely QUESTIONS HIS OWN METHODS, he is still very much a focus on the solution person, and so what is done is done, and he will do his best to help Acedia RISE AGAIN1!! But overall he doesn't believe Acedia is as broken as Wrath and Souya are acting. BUT he also realizes they probably don't have experience being utterly shattered, which is in a way exactly WHY Luke can be the cruelest and most demanding of Acedia to become a better person.

BASICALLY LUKE IS SADDER BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION and he will probably never initiate a conversation with Souya ever. But he's not upppsett because he is very accepting of bad things, and it doesn't really change anything because Luke was always going to do his best to help and is... going to continue to do exactly that.

Sky's thoughts on team.

STATE OF THE TIDE

also Elliot Elliot Elliot Shiki finished your quest she needs to hit you up soon Elliot!!!1

LOOK HOW EASILY I MADE YOU STOP BEING RUBY!!1

SKY LOEV HIS TEAM ALREADY \o/ he started out remembering nothing, he was in a tank and he was barely awake so he started out as as much of a blank as he could, so he showed up having no expectations of anything and being very open to whatever this new world tossed at him.

IN GENERAL TERMS he will listen to whatever any member of Amethyst tells him and build his idea of the world according to what he's told.

More specifically, he sees Tide as the most active one and the one who does the most, Break is a little scary but he thinks he was just angry because he was blind, Ryner is kind, but he's not really sure of what to make of him, Misato needs hugs and also she lies when she's sad so people don't worry and that's bad, Perscitia is a dragon and that is really cool, and Kagari seems really wary so he needs hugs too.

WHEN IS TIDE GETTING FREE TIME SO SOUYA CAN KIDNAP HIM

Soooo even tho luke does have a crush on Acedia that is really a footnote to his huge semi-unhealthy obsession that mostly stems out of YOU REMIND ME OF VAN.

Which puts Acedia in the unique position of you really can't get rid of him. I mean, you could eventually beat him thoroughly enough that he would not bother you a whole lot, and might even leave Ruby, yes. But you can't make him love you any less aaaand the more you hurt him, the more he is going to focus on you. It doesn't mean he will make ALL THE BAD DECISIONS. It's just that Van effect of I MUST SAVE YOU1!! I CAN NEVER GIVE UP!!! combined with I have no value anyway so there is no reason to protect myself from this \=D/

So no his feelings haven't really changed. The emotional info dump was very upsetting. And 90% of Luke's sad right now is fear that he will show Acedia he loves him and it STILL won't be good enough and that would break his heart to a level that would be difficult to bounce back from. Buuuuuttt overall no not really he feels about the same only to a slightly higher level.

THOUGHTS ON BEING FORCED INTO DERE, BREAK

TBF Luke IS regularly on the verge of just leaving Ruby because the whole TEAM OBSESSION thing is really a turn off for him. But he never does because he remembers how badly it would hurt Acedia and Wrath before he gets to it.

IDK MAN I JUST GOT THREE NEW TEAMMATES. PROBABLY NOT FOR A WHILE. HOISTED ON YOUR OWN PETARD.

what kind of toys did he get

LET ME JUST QUOTE AJ

"uhh hm. fuzzy handcuffs. AND ACTUAL POLICE GRADE HANDCUFFS :'D idk a lot of fun stuff like bodypaint, gag stuff like edible underwear ... and idk anything else you think souya'd like"

There's also MUSICAL CONDOMS, a blindfold and this SOUYA WILL NOT KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR.

MEMORIES YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING.

There was tiny antics and ... Shush.

Relationship meme at me.

HE LIKED IT A LOT. Except for Alice he thinks Citrine is full of grate dependable people =||| well no. Median was kind of dumb but that's really the only negative impression he got. WHEN LUKE IS DONE HAVING DRAMA I WILL TRY TO MAKE SOCIAL ROUNDS WITH ELLIOT.

What did goku think of him?

Goku liked him a lot! And the way he handled the first thread and the whole "Where's Konzen" thing actually worked out really well, so Goku got a lot of positive impressions from him. YOU SHOULD COME HANG WITH NORMAL CITRINE, WE'LL JUMP ON YOU AND CLAIM YOU LIKE WE CLAIMED LLOYD or well Goku will :V

I SHOULD THREAD WITH YOU MORE IN GENERAL god uhh, what did Elliot think of the kid event in general? WERE THERE ANY BIG MOMENTS THAT STICK OUT FOR HIM?

Hmmm. Mostly Elliot feels like that, in knowing Vincent's past, he can understand better Vincent's detachment toward him. Combined with the fact that maybe the Nightrays WEREN'T ALL THAT WELCOMING, and Vincent was apparently treated like a curse for his young life, and it makes more sense that maybe Elliot just never became someone he cares about or trusts. Elliot has thought about it in those exact terms, because he can't really understand 'not caring about family', and to HIM Vincent is 100% family. BUT the way his death went has always troubled Elliot a bit and those pieces add a bit of "oh, I can kind of get it" and because he's Elliot he doesn't really need more than that to shrug his shoulders, nod. and move forward.

He will never bring it up unless it is relevant. He can under that it is shameful and unpleasant and wouldn't ask Vincent or Gilbert to talk about it unless necessary. So he will just kind of be MORE OKAYISH with Vincent? Probably more himself. Buuuut also still somewhat on guard because he doesn't really know where he stands with Vincent himself.

REVERSE

sob idk i've been neglecting Tide too badly lately.

OVERALL OKAY? He is kind of sucking at team, but he has also accepted that about himself, as he sort of views his previous efforts as negative helpful and thus by not helping he is at least not doing damage. Also he has become more and more sugata which means Amethyst is less important to him.. SORRY TEAM 8'D He's kind of like Break in that the WINDOW OF WORMING YOUR WAY INTO HIS HEART HAS PASSED and he thinks of team more like classmates than family. He will still be friendly and helpful and will do his best to help Amethyst, but he is no longer obsessive over Amethyst's protection.

SO I GUESS OVERALL he is more at ease but also probably a worse teammate 8|; ON THE OTHER END Since he is going to be more detached with new people than with old, Misato and Ryner still have the ability to make him sincerely worry. Where as the new kids.... lol.

STATE OF THE MISATO?

Uuuuh

Tide: ...idk...i'm always pretty ambivalent on tide memories and now that he got a big ol dose of being sugata most of them won't have a strong effect.

Luke: Akzeriuth, though right now that might re-break him (which I guess is okay...). uuh, MOST JUST. TRAVELING AND TEAM MEMORIES. The talks before the tower of Rem, his own death, Asch's death, killing for the first time/resolving to killl. basically most of his sig negs... 8'D

Elliot: I always look forward to Elliot's memories and then when I get them it is never quite the one I wanted anyway... His family dying, but I would like him to remember more about them before he remembers killing them. More plot stuff. That time Xerxes Break accused him of being the head hunter 8'(

REVERSE

yes you should

lol FINDING OUT GILBERT WAS A CHILD PROSTITUTE AND VINCENT WAS ABUSED HIS ENTIRE LIFE DUE TO A 'CURSED' EYE AND BASICALLY THEIR LIVES SUCKED AND THEY WERE STARVING AND IT WAS TERRIBLE 8(

However minus that Elliot loved the event because he loves kids 8D Tho Alice was giving him an ulcer by trying to eat other children and Victory just RAN OFF AND GOT LOST and...

Ikki on Elliot?

NO PASS, I'm planning to do a SOTU eventually but cry things are still happening to her and I don't want to be like Souya where you write a 20 page essay and then a thread invalidates everything. 8( ASK SOMETHING ELSE.

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